The annual Greece v Turkey NOTAM battle

If you’ve got some time on your hands, have a look at the Greece-Turkey great NOTAM argument of 2016. This is an almost annual performance, the equivalent of a street argument between two kids.

If you’re busy, just skip all of it when they appear on your Pre Flight Briefing for Turkey or Greece (which they will). Some of the highlights are below.

Obviously, this is a squabble that would be best for everyone to be kept out of the NOTAM database, but someone started it …

LTBB/ISTANBUL/SEHIR-CITY A2999/16 11JUL 0414Z
- NAVIGATIONAL WARNING TO ALL CONCERNED:
THIS NOTAM IS ISSUED TO CLARIFY THE A1490/16 LGGG NOTAM ISSUED BY 
GREEK CAA.

AS REGARDS THE GREEK NOTAM A1490/16, TURKEY DOES NOT ACCEPT THE 
DEFINITION OF THE SEARCH AND RESCUE (SAR) AREA WITH REFERENCE TO 
ATHENS FIR. THE AREA REFERRED TO IN THE SAID GREEK NOTAM FAALLS 
WITHIN TURKEY'S MARITIME SEARCH AND RESCUE REGION (SRR) AS DECLARED 
TO THE IMO AND INCLUDED IN THE IMO'S GLOBAL SAR PLAN. THEREFORE, ALL 
SAR EFFORTS/ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE TURKISH SRR MUST BE COORDINATED 
WITH THE RELEVANT TURKISH AUTHORITIES. 11 JUL 04:00 2016 UNTIL 14 JUL 02:30
2016. 

LGGG/ATHINAI A1496/16 11JUL 1201Z
- 
FURTHERMORE THE SAID ATHINAI/ISTANBUL FIR BOUNDARY WAS DEPICTED ON
CHART NUMBER 7 ATTACHED TO THE REGIONAL AIR NAVIGATION AGREEMENT
WHICH WAS REACHED IN THE THIRD REGIONAL AIR NAVIGATIONAL CONFERENCE
(PARIS 1952) AND SUBSEQUENTLY APPROVED BY THE ICAO COUNCIL ON 23
JUNE 1952.
ACCORDINGLY, GREECE HAS BEEN ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL ATM
SERVICES AND ICAO PURPOSES AS WELL AS FOR SAR OPERATIONS WITHIN
ATHINAI FIR/ HELLAS UIR, AS IS CLEARLY DEPICTED IN THE ICAO
AERONAUTICAL CHARTS, AND IS THE ONLY COMPETENT THEREIN NOT LEAVING
SPACE FOR MISLEADING OR MISINTERPRETATIONS.
CONSEQUENTLY, THE REF (B) TURKISH NOTAM A3009/16 LTAAYNYX (111139
EUECYIYN JUL 2016) HAS NO GROUND, CANNOT PRODUCE ANY INTERNATIONALLY
LEGAL EFFECT WITHIN ATHINAI FIR/ HELLAS UIR AND IS CONSIDERED NULL
AND VOID.
THE ONLY VALID AND EFFECTIVE NOTAM WITHIN ATHINAI FIR/HELLAS UIR
IS THE REF (A) A1495/16 LGGGYNYX ISSUED BY GREECE.
END PART 2 OF 2. 11 JUL 11:55 2016 UNTIL 14 JUL 02:30 2016.


LTBB/ISTANBUL/SEHIR-CITY A3022/16 12JUL 0740Z

- NAVIGATIONAL WARNING TO ALL CONCERNED:

THE VIEWS EXPRESSED IN TURKISH NOTAM A3009/16 REMAIN UNCHANGED AND 
IS VALID AND EFFECTIVE. THE GREEK NOTAM A1497/16 IS NULL AND VOID.

TURKEY ALSO WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE THAT NO FURTHER EXPLANATION WILL 
BE GIVEN TO ANY OBJECTION RAISED TO TURKISH NOTAM A3009/16. 12 JUL 07:30 2016
UNTIL 14 JUL 02:30 2016. 


LGGG/ATHINAI A1497/16 12JUL 0545Z

- 
ACCORDINGLY, GREECE HAS BEEN ASSIGNED RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALL ATM
SERVICES AND ICAO PURPOSES AS WELL AS FOR SAR OPERATIONS WITHIN
ATHINAI FIR/ HELLAS UIR, AS IS CLEARLY DEPICTED IN THE ICAO
AERONAUTICAL CHARTS, AND IS THE ONLY COMPETENT THEREIN NOT LEAVING
SPACE FOR MISLEADING OR MISINTERPRETATIONS.
CONSEQUENTLY, THE REF (B) TURKISH NOTAMS A3012/16 AND A3009/16
LTAAYNYX (111250 AND 111139 EUECYIYN JUL 2016) HAVE NO GROUND,
CANNOT PRODUCE ANY INTERNATIONALLY LEGAL EFFECT WITHIN
ATHINAI FIR/ HELLAS UIR AND ARE CONSIDERED NULL AND VOID.
THE ONLY VALID AND EFFECTIVE NOTAMS WITHIN ATHINAI FIR/HELLAS UIR
ARE THE REF (A) A1495/16 AND A1496/16 LGGGYNYX ISSUED BY GREECE. 12 JUL 05:26
2016 UNTIL 14 JUL 02:30 2016.

6 Comments

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AnonymousCoward says:

10 December, 2017 at 9:56 pm

Not a pilot, but… can’t one gov’t just be like “It is advised that you coordinate SAR activities with both us and them to avoid the duplication of effort.”

Ilya says:

16 March, 2017 at 2:17 am

Look through Ukraine/Russia NOTAM battle, you will find the same.
UKFB – Ukrainian version.
URFB – Russian one.

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OTÁVIO RÊGO RÊGO says:

31 July, 2016 at 9:03 am

Essa leitura NOTAN é um pouco complicado de entendermos em tempo. Mas, cada aviso noticiado é bem vindo aos navegadores. Ar, terra e marítimo.