That means 7pm London, 8pm Berlin, etc. In UTC, that’s Tuesday at 1900Z. These times are a little better for both the US and Europe, and we’ll keep this schedule for the rest of the year.<\/p>\n
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Danger Club 4 – this Tuesday, Nov 30<\/strong><\/h3>\n![\"\"](\"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/11\/Danger-Club-Tuesdays-1900Z-1200-300x157.png\")
<\/a><\/p>\nIn the late 90’s, this video<\/a> became perhaps the first aviation meme. “Children of the Magenta Line<\/em>” was the catchphrase: kids flying these days rely on automation so much that they can’t fly the airplane anymore.<\/p>\n“You can’t call yourself a pilot unless you can turn it all off and fly it safely<\/strong>“. That’s the premise.<\/p>\nBut what if the opposite is now true? That throwing away the automation, and bravely hand-flying our airliner like a Pitts Special at Oshkosh is the real danger?<\/p>\n
Let’s find out! In the incident for this Danger Club meeting, we look at an Airbus 319 attempting a visual approach at night into Bristol, UK<\/strong>. The weather was CAVOK, but the crew quickly ran out of situational awareness and ended up fumbling their way around in the darkness, narrowly missing terrain.<\/p>\nThere are a few more interesting things to look at here:<\/p>\n
\n- What exactly is our motivation for flying visual approaches?<\/li>\n
- Are visual approaches higher or lower workload?<\/li>\n
- In this incident, there was no re-briefing or setup for the switch from ILS09 to Visual 27, so the F\/O was not in the loop.<\/li>\n
- The F\/O did<\/strong> call for a go-around – a topic on previous calls we’ve had in DC.<\/li>\n
- Hand flying Airbus aircraft: switch off all the automatics?<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n
Read the incident report – it’s a nice short one<\/a> this time.<\/p>\nAnd join us on Tuesday to talk about it!<\/p>\n
Danger Club #4: Tuesday, Nov 30: 1400 ET \/ 1900 UTC<\/strong><\/span>
\nTuesday 11am LA, 2pm New York, 7pm London, 8pm Berlin, 8am Weds Auckland.<\/em>
\nIncident: A319 Bristol: Grandchildren of the Magenta.<\/p>\nDanger Club #4 - register<\/span><\/a>\n <\/p>\n
Danger Club .. the story so far<\/strong><\/h3>\nWhat happens in Danger Club? Top secret of course, but very simple: we get together as pilots to talk about safety<\/del> danger<\/strong>. This isn’t the usual safety meeting (hence the strikethrough): we’re just fallible humans figuring out where our faults may lie.<\/p>\nThe first three meetings have been met with enthusiasm from all attending, and some really interesting discussions have resulted. Top topics so far: Taking control from the PF, Finding your voice as the F\/O, MAYDAY calls and emergencies, over-experienced captains. It’s been fun and fascinating. Bec wrote a great article on one of the topics after last weeks call: read Fighting for Control<\/a>.<\/p>\nSo, if you have an hour on Tuesday, come along. Just register and then show up when it starts. Open to all pilot members!<\/p>\n
Hope to see you there!<\/p>\n
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<\/a><\/p>\nIn the late 90’s, this video<\/a> became perhaps the first aviation meme. “Children of the Magenta Line<\/em>” was the catchphrase: kids flying these days rely on automation so much that they can’t fly the airplane anymore.<\/p>\n “You can’t call yourself a pilot unless you can turn it all off and fly it safely<\/strong>“. That’s the premise.<\/p>\n But what if the opposite is now true? That throwing away the automation, and bravely hand-flying our airliner like a Pitts Special at Oshkosh is the real danger?<\/p>\n Let’s find out! In the incident for this Danger Club meeting, we look at an Airbus 319 attempting a visual approach at night into Bristol, UK<\/strong>. The weather was CAVOK, but the crew quickly ran out of situational awareness and ended up fumbling their way around in the darkness, narrowly missing terrain.<\/p>\n There are a few more interesting things to look at here:<\/p>\n Read the incident report – it’s a nice short one<\/a> this time.<\/p>\n And join us on Tuesday to talk about it!<\/p>\n Danger Club #4: Tuesday, Nov 30: 1400 ET \/ 1900 UTC<\/strong><\/span> <\/p>\n What happens in Danger Club? Top secret of course, but very simple: we get together as pilots to talk about The first three meetings have been met with enthusiasm from all attending, and some really interesting discussions have resulted. Top topics so far: Taking control from the PF, Finding your voice as the F\/O, MAYDAY calls and emergencies, over-experienced captains. It’s been fun and fascinating. Bec wrote a great article on one of the topics after last weeks call: read Fighting for Control<\/a>.<\/p>\n So, if you have an hour on Tuesday, come along. Just register and then show up when it starts. Open to all pilot members!<\/p>\n Hope to see you there!<\/p>\n <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":" Hi members! First up, new times for Danger Club going forward! Meetings will be on…<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":24,"featured_media":16190,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2005],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-16167","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-danger-club"},"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16167","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/24"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16167"}],"version-history":[{"count":20,"href":"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16167\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":16193,"href":"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16167\/revisions\/16193"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/16190"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16167"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16167"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ops.group\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16167"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}\n
\nTuesday 11am LA, 2pm New York, 7pm London, 8pm Berlin, 8am Weds Auckland.<\/em>
\nIncident: A319 Bristol: Grandchildren of the Magenta.<\/p>\nDanger Club #4 - register<\/span><\/a>\nDanger Club .. the story so far<\/strong><\/h3>\n
safety<\/del> danger<\/strong>. This isn’t the usual safety meeting (hence the strikethrough): we’re just fallible humans figuring out where our faults may lie.<\/p>\n