NTSB: Current NOTAM system is “just a bunch of garbage”

By Declan Selleck

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You were all very supportive when we wrote the initial article on the BS Notam problem last year, and have followed our journey in fixing the problem since then.

Big news!

The NTSB called the Notam System a bunch of garbage on Tuesday this week, and assigned probable cause of the AC759 incident in SFO to the Notams that were missed.

 

What this means to OpsGroup is massive fuel to our fire: we are working hard to fix this problem, and having a public facing government organisation like the NTSB come down like a ton of bricks on the Notam System drives us forward in leaps and bounds.

The group members have been decisive in helping us to identify the problem and taking action to fix this. So, we want to acknowledge all of you! Great work!

In solving two of the above five problems, we have been working with ICAO for several months now. You all got involved in Normand 17,000 Notams later, we happy to report that version 0.1 of Norm is now live on the ICAO website. Norm is a bot – an AI, that has learned what Notams look like, and thanks to OpsGroup rating these 17,000 Notams, is also learning which ones are critical and which ones are not.

He’s still young. He doesn’t get everything, but if you feed him a Notam you’ll see him assign it a criticality of 1-5.

This will in turn allow us to sort Notams, putting the most important stuff first.

 

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Declan Selleck

Declan Selleck

Declan is a Flight Service Specialist with OPSGROUP.

One Comment

  • Prasanna says:

    Dear OPS GROUP, original YSSY NOTAM below for your ref.
    The NOTAM speaks about Obstacle. this typr of NOTAM may be of safety or performance requirement.
    i feel you may post something generic insted of pointing someone…

    Part A02
    H1107/17A02 NOTAMR H1051/17
    Q)YMMM/QOBCE/IV/M/AE/000/009/3357S15111E008
    A)YSSY
    B)1703090031 C)1703310400 EST
    E)OBSTACLE CRANES AT FLW LOCATIONS
    281 FT AMSL BRG 266 MAG 2.10 NM FM ARP
    313 FT AMSL BRG 026 MAG 2.70 NM FM ARP
    266 FT AMSL BRG 223 MAG 2.47 NM FM ARP
    320 FT AMSL BRG 225 MAG 2.53 NM FM ARP
    187 FT AMSL BRG 008 MAG 1.18 NM FM ARP
    262 FT AMSL BRG 312 MAG 3.10 NM FM ARP
    083 FT AMSL BRG 035 MAG 1.13 NM FM ARP
    623 FT AMSL BRG 006 MAG 4.54 NM FM ARP
    182 FT AMSL BRG 008 MAG 1.25 NM FM ARP
    236 FT AMSL BRG 071 MAG 3.00 NM FM ARP
    180 FT AMSL BRG 064 MAG 1.33 NM FM ARP
    188 FT AMSL BRG 019 MAG 2.39 NM FM ARP
    193 FT AMSL BRG 009 MAG 2.36 NM FM ARP OBST MARKING NON STANDARD
    223 FT AMSL BRG 305 MAG 0.93 NM FM ARP
    293 FT AMSL BRG 310 MAG 3.29 NM FM ARP
    279 FT AMSL BRG 022 MAG 2.65 NM FM ARP
    212 FT AMSL BRG 001 MAG 1.53 NM FM ARP
    200 FT AMSL BRG 242 MAG 2.00 NM FM ARP OBST MARKING NON STANDARD
    253 FT AMSL BRG 019 MAG 3.21 NM FM ARP
    194 FT AMSL BRG 006 MAG 1.40 NM FM ARP
    205 FT AMSL BRG 294 MAG 1.54 NM FM ARP OBST UNLIT
    413 FT AMSL BRG 014 MAG 2.78 NM FM ARP
    466 FT AMSL BRG 006 MAG 3.41 NM FM ARP
    203 FT AMSL BRG 014 MAG 1.46 NM FM ADP
    246 FT AMSL BRG 026 MAG 2.56 NM FM ARP OBST MARKING NON STANDARD
    345 FT AMSL BRG 011 MAG 2.69 NM FM ARP
    262 FT AMSL BRG 275 MAG 1.46 NM FM ARP
    229 FT AMSL BRG 325 MAG 3.21 NM FM ARP
    217 FT AMSL BRG 276 MAG 1.46 NM FM ARP OBST UNLIT
    245 FT AMSL BRG 300 MAG 1.56 NM FM ARP
    205 FT AMSL BRG 011 MAG 2.75 NM FM ARP

    Part B02
    H1107/17B02 NOTAMR H1051/17
    Q)YMMM/QOBCE/IV/M/AE/000/009/3357S15111E008
    A)YSSY
    B)1703090031 C)1703310400 EST
    E)227 FT AMSL BRG 017 MAG 2.91 NM FM ARP
    210 FT AMSL BRG 288 MAG 1.24 NM FM ARP
    261 FT AMSL BRG 299 MAG 1.55 NM FM ARP
    232 FT AMSL BRG 291 MAG 1.38 NM FM ARP OBST UNLIT
    500 FT AMSL BRG 005 MAG 3.42 NM FM ARP
    234 FT AMSL BRG 355 MAG 2.50 NM FM ARP
    349 FT AMSL BRG 071 MAG 2.31 NM FM ARP OBST UNLIT
    235 FT AMSL BRG 022 MAG 2.48 NM FM ARP
    187 FT AMSL BRG 357 MAG 2.61 NM FM ARP
    210 FT AMSL BRG 003 MAG 1.58 NM FM ARP
    432 FT AMSL BRG 004 MAG 3.78 NM FM ARP
    205 FT AMSL BRG 020 MAG 2.52 NM FM ARP
    205 FT AMSL BRG 002 MAG 1.58 NM FM ARP
    830 FT AMSL BRG 359 MAG 6.59 NM FM ARP
    175 FT AMSL BRG 317 MAG 2.74 NM FM ARP OBST MARKING NON STANDARD
    364 FT AMSL BRG 020 MAG 3.17 NM FM ARP
    210 FT AMSL BRG 088 MAG 1.45 NM FM ARP
    705 FT AMSL BRG 352 MAG 7.34 NM FM ARP
    413 FT AMSL BRG 001 MAG 3.04 NM FM ARP
    365 FT AMSL BRG 014 MAG 2.75 NM FM ARP

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